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I should have left the 3/4 hour out of it. That can be added at the end.
I only do Primary School maths, so errors like that come naturally to me
hi Geoff Wales
I've put a more accurate copy of my graph on www.bundy.demon.co.uk .
Click the lessons link on the left and then 'Two Cars problem'.
This is an Excel file in the older xls format. Hope you can use it.Bob
Thanks Bob and thanks Soroban. I played around with the file you gave me Bob, and jazzed it up a bit.
You may like it, or you could adapt it for your website. I put it here:
I had at a look at the long division page. While I can understand the use of the take away rows, they make it look awfully complicated. Why not just learn to transfer the remainder to make a new ten?
EG
25 ) 425
25 into 42 goes 1, remainder 17, (write a small 17 to the left of the 5) which then becomes 175, etc...
25 into 175 goes 7, remainder 0
Much quicker...
Mind you, they need to test answers in the old way: 25 x 6 is too small, etc.
I will show them the graph, but I want to concentrate on how they can turn a worded question into an equation.
Thanks for your help guys. Much appreciated.
I'm in Sydney, teaching selective school trial test Maths.
They do practice papers for one year before the actual test, in Maths, English and General Ability.
They are mostly Chinese and Korean students. Gosh, no surprise there.
I am getting it, slowly. If you can answer a couple of the question I put, that would be great.
My main problem is understanding the way the terms are used, I think. I have trouble seeing the connection between the symbols (and the way they are used), and the problem itself.
EDIT
Yes, that was my understanding, too.
Yes, I did draw a graph to help me visualise the problem.
Can I assume that the 35t assumes a time of one hour?
So, '35/60 x t' becomes 35t, right?
This is not an easy question for this age group. I want to make it as simple as possible.
Car A travels at 35 kph plus a head start of 35kph for 3/4h
I need to explain how I get from s = d/t to d = 35t, so 35km/1hour helps to simplify the term to 35, not 35/60.
35kph = d/t
d = 35kph x t (simplify by ignoring 'kph')
35t plus the extra 3/4hr at 35kph = 50t
(We don't write 35 x 3/4t, because 't' refers to an unknown time, where the 3/4hr is a known time - is that right?)
15t = 35 x 3/4
t = 35/15 x 3/4
t = 7/3 x 3/4
t = 7/4
7/4 hours from zero hours, or 10/4 hours from zero hours?
Is it 1 3/4 hours from the start of the race, or 2 1/2 hours?
I see you asked the question, "how long will it take Car B to catch up with Car A" (you got the A and B mixed up, I think), so that would imply we have to add the 3/4 hour to find the time from the start.
What is the dot in 35.3/4? 35 times 3/4?
Can you explain in words what you have written in math terms?
What is t in 35t? Time?
I know S = D/T, so D = SxT, right?
I'm not a maths (math) teacher, although I do teach some basic maths in Primary (Elementary) School. I'll see if I can follow your explanation, but as yet I don't understand it.
I will need to come up with a simpler solution if I am going to show Year 6 how to solve this.
Thanks for the quick reply. What a great place to find!
Car A leaves at 35kph. After 45 minutes Car B leaves at 50kph. When will Car B catch Car A?
What I need is the solution, rather than the answer.
Thanks
Geoff
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