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It's not the point just to wake up and say "I believe in God"
Believing is something more than saying it,it's believing by heart.........
Here ares some piece of the Quran wich are much older than your and my science.......

"Do not the unbelievers know that the heavens and earth have been one? Then We divided and made from water every living thing! Do they still not believe?"(El-Enbija 30)

Have you heard about the theory than someday the comso will be cold and some matiers will reunite them and make another explosion??????

"The same way We started the first creation,we will repeat it" (Enbija,104)

About the expannsion of the universe wich was prooved in 1929 I think

"We have built the heaven with our power, and We extend it"(Edh-Dharijat,47)

The latest theory in astronomy in the 90's say that the universe will end by explosion or by contraction

"That Day,We will furl the heavin like the paper of a book.The same way We started the first creation,We will repaet it.That's Our promise .And We will do it" (Edh-Dhraijat,47)

Einstein has prooved that the light in the universe do not make a stright line,it makes a circular line wich will be back in the opossite direction after milions of yera.If we set the position of the light in a cross way,it will be back much more weak as from the beginning"

"Then put your sight again, your eyes will return tired and weak"(El-Mulk)

"Even if We opened a door and they would climb through it, they will surely say that "our eyes have been distracted, even we have benn bewitched""(El-Hixhr,14-15)

"He has created seven heavens one above the other.You can not  find in the creation of the Merciful any defection.Look up:do you see any cracks?(El-Mulk,3)

These are just a piece of thing that I have in my book about the science and Islam.

You know,it;s not my job to make you believe........You can not say "I have never heard.......",it's you that has to find the answer,do not expect someone someday will be at your door and say "Hey here are the facts!!!!!!"  You have to search and search!!!!   It's like the french proverb "Qui cherche,trouve"  "Who looks after soemthing,will find it" 

Then when you have made you search,you can say I Belive or I don't believe....just sitting at home and saying I don't believe doesn't mean anything......

At the begginig I was mostly like you.....I believed in God of course,but I wasn;t interested to know something else because while I was living in Switzerland,nobody said to me that the Bible has soemthing interesting about science!!!!!(I didn't knew anything that time about islam,except the prayers and there is one God"

As a muslim,I believe that the Bible is the word of God,but only the true Bible which now doesn;t exist.That's why God sent the Quran,the last and unchangeable revelation for the human kind........

I thoought this was interesting to post.It may not function the first time,so try again or just wait till the video loads.
Englishs subtitles are below in white color,the others are in albanian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mrFRnubVg&feature=related

For those who are interested and those who believe in God,watch this video and loisten with attention what poeple who believed in Allah-God said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybjJLjW_zEQ

Secrets of the Quran. Documentary by History channel. Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOgwJP34FY4

I am a muslim.

Exactly.......Life is a "game",a challenge that we have to face up  and to be the winner.......
I know that there are a lot of words circulating about islam,terrorism and things like that,but one thing that all of us needs to know,is that a TRUE muslim can not kill an innocent person.
God says:"If someone of you kills an innocent person,it is like killing the entire humanity"....all those stories about islam and terrorism have been cretaed by some persones to make a bad image of islam.
About science,in islam,science is connected with the everyday life...God says and the began of the Curan:"Read...Read in the name of your God"  and somewhere else "If you would like the "knowleadge" as you like the beauty,there wouldn't be ant ihnorent on earth"    (sorry for my english)

At the beginnig,I was muslim just by name,but one night we started to discuss the differences between islam and christianity with my cousin,(we lived in switzerland so we had contact with christianity) and the nest days we tried to get more information about islam.

As I always liked science,I started to search "science" in islam,and gradually,I felt that it was the right way for me....and from then,I'm trying to be a good muslim.......

I don't says that chrisitanity is a fals religion,in contrary,islam and christianity are very connected,because we worship the same God,it's just that we have some fondamental diferences,but we have to respect each other,no matter religion or something else...that is what islam teaches....respect for everyone...not killing people like thing that tv shows....
I don't say that these people haven't killed poeple,but those poeple can not be muslim....It's like if \i had a bomb,and before exploding I would dress like a person of X religion and blame that religion for violence.....

These thing are not dicovered after science.
Science is "a way" to proove you the things wich are wrote into it.
If you want to proof something,you have to use the thing that others understand,in this case,science is the key....

Well I do not need anything to prove.Everything is clarified,you just need to chek it out.
To be more precise,just take a Quran and read it,try to understand what it says,not reading it like a roman or an ordinary book because it isn't.

Here are things that you can find in the Quran,wich were mentioned in it before 1400 years....

The Quran explains about the rotation of the earth around it's own orbit,it's "journey" with the moon around the sun and explains that the earth,sun,and the moon travel together toward a "point",which you can not denied that is so,because we are travelling around the center of the gallactic.

The Quran explains how a fetus is formed in very precise way.You may says that the Quran was written by a men,but how could he know how a fetus is formed in that time??????????(in such a precise way)

The Quran explains the structure of the earth,the rain,about mountains and tells sspecific caracteristic wich have been discovered by science a few decades before(like that mountains strengthen the earth around them)...

It explaisn that between seas and oceans there is a "unvisible barriere" where the salty water between seas and oceans do not mixed with themselves and this was prooved by oceanographic very late....
It says if a moustique(in french it's ""mouche"" because I don't know how is the name in english) fells in your glass,and has just one wing in the water,push it down so the second wing get in the water because one wing has the ""poison" and the other  the "antidote"".
Scientis from australia are now doing researches about an antibiotic which is beeing created by "mouche" and are develloping further researches about what the Quran says about medicine

I don't remember for now something else......Notice that all the word used are maybe not coorect because I tryed to translate them in the best way,but some word may not be put coorect to make sense,but it is how I felt that you can understand what am I saying

Maybe you'r thinking"he's llying" so if you want to """know"" if I lied or not(of ourse I didn't) just ta,]ke a Quran and start to read it with attention,or go to talk with someone who knows about the scientic thing of the Quran,that's the best way.

If you are really given after science,you'll find a lot of interesting things in it.
You just have to take and to read it(and don't tell me that the thing I mentioned are not in the Quran because I''ll start to laugh because I will supose you  didn't read it,without any offends)

Just to make it clear,I'm not trying to convince you to be religioud or something like that.
Becaus in the beginning  when I was younger I always was given after scince and I didn't have very often contacts with yhe Quran and religious men,but once I decided to take and read it,and to go to lessons about yhe Quran and that is how I started to be religious(I mean to make 5 prayer a day because I always believed that there is a God and I was grown in a christian environment so I know basic differences between Islam and Christianity)

So the best you can do,take to read it or go to ask someone who knows better than me for more details about the Quran because my knowledge about the Quran is like a single drop in an ocean)

Who is Baulder????????????????????????????????

Well,I would think that life doesn't have any point than if we would just be regenerated in other bodys afetr a time?!?!?!
I think that every religion must have something to prove that what are they practicing are true........if they have something to prove.....
not just wolrds bla bla bla bla,but facts,why not scientific facts

I can;t uderstand why people prefere believing in "everything else" than in God??
Is it so hard for you to accept that there is a Suprem Ruler (and you are not this one)?
That you are simply a creature and He is the creator?????

If whe would be "separate god" why do we die???
Gods don;t die!!!!!
God is the one who was not created but who is the Creator.

You may says  science here,science there.....but He is the one who created everything.
Why the cosmos has ruled of how to function???
Because He made "rules of univers" that we call science formulas and other thing.
And maybe He want us to believe in it by not seeing It.He sends to every earlier nation revelation that people have changed for having a profit or any other reason......

I still can't understand the "logic" how human can believe in these things....

Thank you so much simrom

If someone of you have any other link or a downloadeable pdf book,please give me the link

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