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#151 Re: Help Me ! » more basic limits - cant get the answer that it states » 2009-02-07 01:33:57

As coffeeking said, the easiest way to solve this one is to factor the denominator and cancel out the numerator.

As for your method, it is not legal to square the expression.

#153 Re: Help Me ! » basic limits - need help, positive and negative infinity?? » 2009-02-06 08:29:14

A true limit exists only if the limits from both the left and the right sides exist and are equal.  As you pointed out the limits from the left and right sides in your example are not equal, which means that the limit as a whole does not exist.

#154 Re: This is Cool » Cauchy–Schwarz–Bunyakovsky inequality » 2009-02-06 04:14:03

I'm an idiot.  Thanks for the explanation.

#155 Re: This is Cool » Cauchy–Schwarz–Bunyakovsky inequality » 2009-02-06 00:56:02

JaneFairfax wrote:

Treating the LHS as a quadratic in

, we see that its discrimant cannot be positive.

I don't follow this part.  Why can't the discriminant be positive?

#156 Re: Help Me ! » Quick integral » 2009-02-04 10:08:05

JaneFairfax wrote:
TheDude wrote:

, which I'm not certain is better than what we started with.

Well, when you put it like that, it is better smile

#157 Re: Help Me ! » Quick integral » 2009-02-04 09:07:43

That's not what it comes out to though.  Using that substitution gives

, which I'm not certain is better than what we started with.

#158 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 08:11:23

Pi is, by definition, the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.  Are you arguing that such a ratio cannot exist?

#159 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 07:45:50

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_that_%CF%80_is_irrational

#160 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 07:30:40

No, we will never know all of the digits of pi.  That doesn't mean that they aren't there, though.

#161 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 05:54:34

So are you saying that pi's digits do not go on infinitely, or that we haven't proven it?

#162 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 05:24:18

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying.  Do you mean that we haven't proven that pi's digits never get to the point that they repeat indefinitely?

#163 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 04:35:27

I'm not sure what you're saying.  Are you saying that we can express as many digits of pi in binary as we can in decimal?  If so then you're right.  Although it will take many more digits we can express pi to the same accuracy in binary that we can in decimal.

However, countability is a whole different subject that deals with the size of infinite sets like the naturals, the rationals, and the reals.

#164 Re: Help Me ! » Power Set Algorithm » 2009-02-04 04:11:33

I think there's a misunderstanding.  George, where you said that the real numbers are countable with a binary powerset, I think you meant that they are expressable.  Countability implies a 1-1 relationship between the set in question (in our case, the reals) and the natural numbers.

#168 Re: Help Me ! » Induction. o_O » 2009-01-28 07:44:26

We know:

2 + 4 + 6 + ... + 2k > k^2

Add 2k + 2 to both sides:

2 + 4 + 6 + ... + 2k + (2k + 2) > k^2 + 2k + 2 > k^2 + 2k + 1 QED.

#169 Re: Help Me ! » Induction. o_O » 2009-01-28 07:17:41

You didn't do the induction step correctly.  It should be:

2 + 4 + 6 + 8 + ... + 2k + (2k + 2) > (k + 1)^2 = k^2 + 2k + 1

You already know that 2 + 4 + 6 + ... + 2k > k^2, so subtract both sides from the inequality.  The proof is trivial from there.

#170 Re: Puzzles and Games » Odd many out » 2009-01-27 07:49:15

Interestingly, it's also the only letter of the 4 that doesn't have a verticle line symmetry.

#171 Re: Puzzles and Games » Odd many out » 2009-01-27 06:37:52

JaneFairfax wrote:

You could have just said iodine is the odd one out because it is the only one of the four not to be a gas at room temperature and standard atmospheric pressure. tongue

I could have said that, except that I didn't know about it smile.

Anyway, U is an odd one because it is typically drawn with a curved line.  Y is odd because it is a consonant.  A is odd because it is the only one that forms a word by itself (in English, anyway).  E is odd because it is (as far as I know) the only letter that has been explicitly avoided in a published novel.

#172 Re: Puzzles and Games » Odd many out » 2009-01-27 04:26:00

I'm not sure about this one, but since Iodine is the only listed element with a larger atomic weight than Iron I think it is the only one which would release more energy upon undergoing a fission reaction than what would be required to perform the reaction.

#173 Re: Puzzles and Games » Odd many out » 2009-01-27 04:05:50

Hydrogen is the only element in the list with a stable isotope that contains no neutrons.

Sorry, it's been too long since chemistry class for me to come up with anything for the other 3.

#174 Re: Help Me ! » Real Analysis Help » 2009-01-23 04:25:28

You can use proof by contradiction for all 3 questions.  Start by assuming that sqrt(2) + sqrt(3) is rational, which means it is equal to some fration a/b where a and b are coprime integers.


The left side of this equation is clearly rational.  If you are allowed to assert without further proof that sqrt(6) is irrational then you have your contradiction, otherwise go ahead and show that sqrt(6) is irrational to get the contradiction.  You can use this same line of work for the second question.

Do the same thing for the third question. Let r = a/b where a and b are coprime integers and find a contradiction.

#175 Re: Euler Avenue » Looking for a function » 2009-01-20 08:37:40

Perhaps my first thought will be more helpful.  The irrationals are uncountably infinite, and f(x) will have to map them only to the rationals, which are countably infinite.  Someone more educated on the subject will have to either verify or refute this, but it seems to me that such a mapping must include at least one member of the set of rationals which has an uncountably infinite number of irrational numbers mapped to it.  Let's call this number m.

If that is incorrect then ignore the rest of this post.  But if it is true then I don't think that any such function could be continuous.  Further guesswork leads me to believe that there would be at least one irrational x where f(x) = m that would not have a limit because f(x) would oscillate infinitely many times between m and various irrational numbers no matter how close you approached x.  Basically it would behave like sin(pi/x) near x = 0.

I'm sorry if my explanation isn't clear, if something I wrote doesn't make sense I can try to explain it better.  Of course, I'm probably wrong anyway, but maybe it can lead you in the right direction.

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