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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Let m,n be positive integers. When m/n is expressed as a decimal, three consecutive digits after the decimal point are 1,6, 7 in order. Find the smallest possible value of n.

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**pi_cubed****Member**- From: A rhombicosidodecahedron
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Since 0.167=167/1000 and that is in the lowest terms, the smallest value of n must be 1000...

*Last edited by pi_cubed (2020-07-03 14:32:19)*

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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi pi_cubed

Remember this isn't my problem.

It says '3 digits are'; it's unclear if that means the first three or any three. It doesn't say the decimal is just 0.167 There may be more digits after that.

Assuming it's the first three, I have found an 'n' that is lower than 1000. I got 0.167989....

If the answer may be 0.dddd167dddd then I think I could get an even lower n.

Bob

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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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401/491= 0.816700....

I am not yet claiming that is the lowest 'n'. Still working on it.

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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bob bundy wrote:

Assuming it's the first three, I have found an 'n' that is lower than 1000. I got 0.167989....Bob

Hi Bob,

For 167dddd..., I got m=22, n=131, m/n=0.**167**9389...

Did you omit the '3' that's in my quotient, or did you find a different *n* than 131?

Here's the complete list of lowest *n* I found:

167dddddd... : m=22, n=131, m/n=0.**167**938931...

d167ddddd... : m=107, n=131, m/n=0.8**167**93893...

dd167dddd... : m=50, n=131, m/n=0.38**167**9389...

ddd167ddd... : m=5, n=131, m/n=0.038**167**938...

dddd167dd... : m=66, n=131, m/n=0.5038**167**93...

ddddd167d... : m=59, n=131, m/n=0.45038**167**9...

dddddd167... : m=19, n=131, m/n=0.145038**167**...

And for all such {167dddddd,d167ddddd,...dddddd167}, I found that the next-to-lowest *n* is 137.

*Last edited by phrontister (2020-07-06 11:18:16)*

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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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hi Phro,

Great to hear from you.

Just knocked together a short prog. to crunch this. Couldn't do better than 131.

Is there a way to get this analytically I wonder?

Bob

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**phrontister****Real Member**- From: The Land of Tomorrow
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Hi Bob;

Nice to have another go at something.

I see that your last post came before I finished an edit to my previous post (#5), and so you might like to have a look at that one.

I wrote a small, clunky, BASIC program to get my results, and can't think of a cleverer approach.

It's interesting that all my results for the lowest *n* have n=131...which looks like a pattern to me.

But it all seems rather frivolous, and so I think I'll leave it there.

*Last edited by phrontister (2020-08-05 21:52:24)*

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**Raveeshjji****Member**- Registered: 2020-08-05
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I am not yet claiming that is the lowest 'n'. Still working on it.

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