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#1 2010-02-14 08:19:46

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Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Here is the question:

what is the difference for the equation of  "square of 1 - square of 2 + square of 3 - square of 4........+ square of 99 - square of 100"?

I got -5500, is that correct?dunno

Please give any assitance!

Thank you for helping!!!:D


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#2 2010-02-14 08:24:53

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Hi iamfriendly;

I don't think that is correct, I am getting an answer of - 5050


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
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#3 2010-02-14 08:32:47

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

thank u!!

i will double check but i think i m on the right track


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#4 2010-02-14 08:34:02

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Yep, you are correct, Thank you again!!


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#5 2010-02-14 08:36:50

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

May I ask how did you got the answer, we probably used different methods?


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#6 2010-02-14 08:48:54

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Hi;

Of course you can ask. I do it the easy way.

There are 2 ways I work that type of problem when I need a quick rough and tumble answer.

!) I take it to wolfram alpha, a site that is available to everyone. It immediately provides the -5050 result.

2) I look it up in a table of sums that was provided to me when I needed them on a daily basis for problems.

Then just substitute in for n = 100 to get -5050.

Actually to do it analytically is not difficult at all, you can try differences and a generating function. Proving that your answer is correct would probably involve induction.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#7 2010-02-16 23:58:08

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

I did it in

and also in
.

They were the easy ways for me.

Last edited by phrontister (2010-03-31 22:40:06)


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#8 2010-03-31 09:21:10

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

that's kool , very KOOL Thank you


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#9 2010-03-31 11:17:13

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

phrontister wrote:

Do it this way.

A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: sad-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2

Drag copy handle on cell B1 down to B2. Then select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle down to row 100.

Then enter this:

B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Last edited by JaneFairfax (2010-03-31 22:50:05)

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#10 2010-03-31 11:33:51

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!



Proof:

If n is even, the sum is equal to


If n is odd, evaluate the sum to n−1 (which is even) and add n[sup]2[/sup].
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Last edited by JaneFairfax (2010-03-31 11:42:42)

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#11 2010-03-31 14:37:50

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Re: Seeking anwser for a challenging question !!

Hi Jane,

JaneFairfax wrote:

Do it this way.

A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: = (-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2

Drag copy handle on cell B1 down to B2. Then select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle down to row 100.

Then enter this:

B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Nice! smile Much more streamlined than mine...which now looks rather clumsy.

Just a couple of things:

1. More streamlining:
A1: 1
B1: = (-1)^(A1+1)*A1^2
Select these two cells and drag copy handle them down to row 100.
B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

Your formula obviates the need for multiple-row selection.

2. An alternative:
A1: 1
A2: 2
B1: A1^2
B2: -(A2^2)
Select the four cells A1:B2 and drag copy handle them down to row 100.
B101: =SUM(B1:B100)

This alternative utilises the way Excel and OOoCalc paste a 'drag copy' of a multiple-row selection.

Last edited by phrontister (2010-04-01 11:43:55)


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