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#1501 2012-02-01 22:35:29
- bobbym
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Re: What do you think?
The length of the numbers is certainly a pain.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1502 2012-02-01 22:42:39
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Re: What do you think?
Yes!
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1503 2012-02-01 22:47:06
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Re: What do you think?
Knuth claims it is the largest one he has ever seen. I agree!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1504 2012-02-02 00:07:22
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Re: What do you think?
Hi gAr;
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1505 2012-02-02 00:43:04
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Re: What do you think?
Hi bobbym,
That's good!
Did you use the algorithm given in that book?
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1506 2012-02-02 00:46:33
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Re: What do you think?
Hi gAr;
No, I wrote a little program to do these with Mathematica. It is not the fastest in the world and entering them is a headache.
What algorithm are you thinking of?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1507 2012-02-02 00:56:34
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Re: What do you think?
Hi bobbym,
Okay.
I have a fascicle of vol 4 which I had downloaded earlier, in that there's an algorithm.
But didn't understand it to implement. There's a table to be initialized, how to do it is not clear enough.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1508 2012-02-02 01:00:48
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Re: What do you think?
I have that too, what page and what title?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1509 2012-02-02 01:06:37
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Re: What do you think?
It's 7.2.1.2 - generating all permutations, page 7
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#1510 2012-02-02 01:16:33
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Re: What do you think?
Hi;
Are you talking about algorithm T or A1-A3?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1511 2012-02-02 01:23:24
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Re: What do you think?
Oh, I missed algorithm T.
I'll read that!
Meanwhile, I found a code in python which solved it in a couple of minutes:
http://code.activestate.com/recipes/576 … cs-solver/
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1512 2012-02-02 01:29:08
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Re: What do you think?
Hi gAr;
Thanks for the python code page.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1513 2012-02-02 01:30:53
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Re: What do you think?
Hi bobbym,
You're welcome.
And thanks for the alphametic.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1514 2012-02-02 01:40:25
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Re: What do you think?
Hi;
Thanks for mentioning the book. I did not even look at his algorithm since I got the book yesterday.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1515 2012-02-02 02:24:56
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Re: What do you think?
Hi Bobby,
Copy/Paste was a mighty good invention!
"The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do. The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do." - Ted Nelson
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#1516 2012-02-02 02:28:35
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Re: What do you think?
Hi phrontister;
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1517 2012-02-02 02:30:07
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Re: What do you think?
Hi bobbym,
I feel overwhelmed by the information available there. It would take years to grasp it!
And I observed that we may shorten the alphametic:
NINETYONE = FORTYFIVE + NINETEEN + ELEVEN + TEN + FIVE + ONE
because NINETYNINENONILLIONNINETYNINETRILLION is common both sides.
Now we may use a procedural language to solve it, like a code given here: http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/mail-www/haskell/msg01918.html
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1518 2012-02-02 02:33:59
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Re: What do you think?
Very good! I noticed that too while my program was running. Before I could rewrite it the answer came up.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1519 2012-02-02 02:41:21
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Re: What do you think?
I guess it's one more of knuth's humors!
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1520 2012-02-02 02:45:37
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Re: What do you think?
He is a funny guy.
I feel overwhelmed by the information available there. It would take years to grasp it!
It is a lot of people's work.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1521 2012-02-02 02:52:00
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Re: What do you think?
Yes, that's true.
There's so much to know.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1522 2012-02-02 02:57:46
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Re: What do you think?
There is supposed to be a 4B,4C and 4D.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1523 2012-02-02 04:13:48
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Re: What do you think?
And he has also planned for vol 5,6 and 7, I wish he'll be able to do it!
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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#1524 2012-02-02 06:04:06
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Re: What do you think?
Yes, If he lives to be 159, we will certainly see them.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#1525 2012-02-02 15:33:46
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And if we too will live till that time!
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense" - Buddha?
"Data! Data! Data!" he cried impatiently. "I can't make bricks without clay."
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