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Sylvia104

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Syllogism

I am nobody.
Nobody is perfect.
Therefore I am perfect.

MathsIsFun

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Re: Syllogism

Being perfect makes you somebody
So you are not nobody anymore

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bobbym

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Re: Syllogism

Protein is good for you.
I am mostly protein.
I am good for you?

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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

phrontister

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Re: Syllogism

"Synthesis" is "syllogism".
"Syllogism" is "deduction".
Therefore the process of producing a chemical compound is called "deduction".

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Jai Ganesh

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Re: Syllogism

Syllogism : A college student (man) to his professor : 'I love you; you love your daughter; therefore, I love your daughter'!

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phrontister

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Re: Syllogism

I think, therefore I am.

I google, therefore I don't think.

Conclusion: My existence is in doubt!

The Thinker: food for thought...

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anonimnystefy

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Re: Syllogism

Protein is good for you.
I am mostly protein.
I am good for you?

no.you are mostly good for me.

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bobbym

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Re: Syllogism

Hi anonimnystefy;

Thanks, I appreciate that.

Hi Sylvia104;

This is off topic but I thought you would be interested in this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 5525&hl=en

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In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

phrontister

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Re: Syllogism

My nose runs,
my feet smell:
...I'm just a crazy mixed-up kid.

My eyes talk,
my heart sings:
...I'm so a crazy mixed-up kid.

My hands speak,
my fingers do the walking:
...I'm totally a crazy mixed-up kid.

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anonimnystefy

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Re: Syllogism

The sentence below is true.
The sentence above is false.
Therefore, the last two sentences are a paradox.

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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
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Maximum Ride

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Re: Syllogism

Protein is good for you.
I am mostly protein.
I am good for you?

no.you are mostly good for me.

lol i am protein.

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Tigeree

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Re: Syllogism

I am nobody
Nobody is perfect
Therefore I am perfect
Only God is perfect
Therefore I am God
God is love
Love is blind
Therefore Stevie Wonder is love
Love is God
Therefore Stevie Wonder is God
Only God is perfect
Nobody is perfect
I am nobody
Therefore I am perfect
Therefore I am Stevie Wonder
Oh darn, I'm blind!   

I think that's a little longer than the original I heard...
Didn't really understand it 'til now.

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anonimnystefy

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Re: Syllogism

Now that we have posted enough of these, anyone wanna find out what's wrong with them.

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Bob

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Re: Syllogism

hi

There's even a

But I wasn't going to say anything, as you were obviously having such fun. 

Bob

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anonimnystefy

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Re: Syllogism

Hi bob

I noticed those myself.But take, for example, bobbym's syllogism about proteins.

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“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Bob

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Re: Syllogism

Well firstly we could question whether 'mostly protein' and 'protein' are logically equivalent or even {mostly protein}, {protein} is one of these sets a subset of the other.

Alternatively, question whether the word 'good' is sufficiently well defined to allow it to be used as it it is the same in all the statements.

Bob

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Children are not defined by school ...........The Fonz
You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei
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anonimnystefy

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Re: Syllogism

Hi bob

What if we look at the conclusion as if it says that if we are bobbym (which we would never do) it would be good for us.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2012-03-04 02:00:40)

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“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

Bob

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Re: Syllogism

hi Stefy,

Let's define the terms properly.

good:  Makes you healthy and strong when you eat it.

Thus, protein is good for you. => protein is good for you because it makes you healthy and strong.

bobbym is mostly protein.

=>  we must eat bobbym !!!

Bob

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Children are not defined by school ...........The Fonz
You cannot teach a man anything;  you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei
Sometimes I deliberately make mistakes, just to test you!  …………….Bob

anonimnystefy

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Re: Syllogism

Hi bob

We have reached a conclusion on this one?

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“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.