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#276 2012-12-08 21:29:57
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I like them very much. However, I am asking whether the book would help me to solve them
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#277 2012-12-08 21:34:07
- bobbym
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Re: help me
Hi Agnishom;
The best way to learn anything is to solve problems. Dry lectures you will forget within a week, but a solved problem shows you how.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#278 2012-12-08 21:42:59
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Hmm...
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#279 2012-12-08 22:14:07
- bobbym
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Re: help me
It is how gAr, anonimnystefy and I work.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#280 2012-12-08 22:37:47
- anonimnystefy
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You can take a look at the "Oh, oh, oh, merry analsis", "Expectation", " Generating functions!", and many more. Many of them started because I (but not only I) wanted to learn about knew topics. You will find that all of those threads consist only of problems and nothing but problems.
Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
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#281 2012-12-08 22:47:31
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What are these?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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#282 2012-12-08 22:48:44
- anonimnystefy
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Various threads here on the forum.
Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.
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#283 2012-12-08 22:50:16
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Oh! I forgot 
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#284 2012-12-08 22:56:30
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What does the big O notation signify?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#285 2012-12-08 22:58:03
- bobbym
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Re: help me
Hi Agnishom;
There are many of these threads filled with good problems.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#286 2012-12-08 23:01:34
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Hmm.. 
But what is the meaning of the big O?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#287 2012-12-08 23:16:04
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Re: help me
Hi;
The Big O notation is used to describe the limit of an algorithms performance as it approaches infinity or some other value.
big O notation is used to classify algorithms by how they respond (e.g., in their processing time or working space requirements) to changes in input size.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#288 2012-12-09 01:01:30
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Any example of it?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#289 2012-12-09 02:08:53
- bobbym
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Re: help me
This is very simple and very watered down.
Supposing you wanted to add two two digit numbers. It would take you 2 additions to do it. If you had two four digit numbers it would take 4 additions. Notice as n ( the number of digits doubled the amount of work required also doubled. 4 additions to 2.)
We say that algorithm is linear and assign it O(n).
Now how about multiplication the way you were taught?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#290 2012-12-09 02:33:43
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I think multiplication should be linear too
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#291 2012-12-09 02:39:13
- bobbym
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Hi;
When you multiply two two digit numbers it takes 4 multiplications. When you two 4 digit numbers it takes 16 multiplications rather than the expected 8. When we triple the amout of digits 6 x 6 it takes 36 multiplications.
n
2 digits = 4 mults
4 digits = 16 mults
6 digits = 36 digits.
You can see that the relationship is n^2. We say that the operation of schoolboy multiplication is O(n^2).
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#292 2012-12-09 03:38:35
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Re: help me
Hi Agnishom;
The best way to learn anything is to solve problems. Dry lectures you will forget within a week, but a solved problem shows you how.
what about a wet lecture? 
The integral of hope is reality.
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#293 2012-12-09 03:54:09
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Yes...I see
Whats next?
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'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
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#294 2012-12-09 04:05:54
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Re: help me
Hi;
Did you check out the thread anonimnystefy mentioned?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#295 2012-12-09 04:08:55
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Yes but I dont understand the problems over there
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#296 2012-12-09 04:10:22
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Re: help me
Can you say what is the part you do not understand?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#297 2012-12-09 04:14:55
Re: help me
Okay but tomorrow 
Gotta sleep! Good Night!
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#298 2012-12-09 04:17:24
- bobbym
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Re: help me
Hi;
Okay, see you tomorrow.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#299 2012-12-09 10:06:39
- Sarah Rebekah 16
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Re: help me
sup guys?
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#300 2012-12-09 10:09:59
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hi Sarah,
How are you today?
Bob
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