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Agnishom

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From: Riemann Sphere

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Re: [1 paradox]

And 0.9999999999999.....can never be equal to unity.....
limit of .999999..... could be 1
but saying that .99999999...itself is equal to 1 would be absurd since both of those numbers have their own existence which cannot be equated......

It is just another way of saying the other. An endless number of 9's just mean the same thing as the number of 9's approaching infinity.

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bobbym

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Re: [1 paradox]

i totally agree with Bobbym...

Not exactly, half the time I do not even agree with him but he makes a good bowl of soup.

If you become convinced .999999... = 1 then you totally agree with bobbym.

Also, the sum from n=1 to infinity of 9(1/10)^n = 1. But that's beside the point and not a very intuitive proof.

I would rather say .9999999... = 1 and be able to continue using the sum of a geometric series formula then not.

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PKBeam

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Registered: 2013-03-21

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Re: [1 paradox]

hi Maiya

Haven't heard from you for a while, how are you?

I think you can have two numbers that are the same like this

Bob

Pi isn't exactly equal to that, the decimal is an approximation. So you should not put a "=" sign, you should put "≈"

Agnishom

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Re: [1 paradox]

Now that is what the ............ at the end of the value tells you

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Maiya

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Re: [1 paradox]

Hello Bob;
'm good and how are you doing.....???

and those aren't two numbers in actual sense .........
because pi is a symbol that is used to represent a particular decimal,3.1415.........

Hello Bobbym;
almost the whole of the argument you were trying to prove that .999999...... isn't equal to unity
that is what i actually agreed on..........

bobbym

bumpkin

From: Bumpkinland

Registered: 2009-04-12

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Re: [1 paradox]

Hi;

What I was disagreeing with is

0.999... + 1/∞ = 1

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Bob

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Re: [1 paradox]

hi Maiya

I'm good too.

and those aren't two numbers in actual sense .........
because pi is a symbol that is used to represent a particular decimal,3.1415.........

But my point (see also earlier comments by me) is that all numbers are like this.

"1" is the symbol I use to represent the decimal 0.999999.....................   

Bob

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Maiya

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Re: [1 paradox]

Hello Bob;
Guess that approximation can be done.......