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#26 2014-09-16 12:33:44

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Re: Bitter die

You have the matrix? Then please post it and we will see...


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#27 2014-09-16 12:39:03

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Re: Bitter die

{{5/6,1/6,0,0,0,0,0},{2/3,1/6,1/6,0,0,0,0},{2/3,1/6,0,1/6,0,0,0},{2/3,1/6,0,0,1/6,0,0},{2/3,1/6,0,0,0,1/6,0},{2/3,1/6,0,0,0,0,1/6},{5/6,1/6,0,0,0,0,0}}

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#28 2014-09-16 12:51:39

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Re: Bitter die

What are your headings?


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#29 2014-09-16 12:52:57

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Re: Bitter die

" "
6
65
654
6543
65432
654321


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#30 2014-09-16 13:01:31

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Re: Bitter die

Okay, I spoke to soon. The Markov chain gets the expected time to when the event occurs not how many are expected to happen.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#31 2014-09-16 13:11:47

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Re: Bitter die

So, you cannot do it by Markov chain?

Fixed my matrix above, forgot that 654321 is not an absorbing state.


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
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#32 2014-09-16 13:17:44

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Re: Bitter die

Maybe you could do it but I do not know how?!


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#33 2014-09-16 13:24:57

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Re: Bitter die

Hm, is expected time calculated as P(I-P)^(-2)?

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2014-09-16 13:25:30)


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
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#34 2014-09-16 13:31:05

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Re: Bitter die

Maybe, I do not remember offhand.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#35 2014-09-16 13:32:26

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Re: Bitter die

It seems right for infinite throws. I think it's different for finite.


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
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#36 2014-09-16 13:33:31

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Re: Bitter die

Yea, I think I will stick with his linearity principle on this one.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#37 2014-09-16 13:34:47

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Re: Bitter die

Hm, so you did it the same way I did?


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
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#38 2014-09-16 13:40:30

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Re: Bitter die

No, I just copied his.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#39 2014-09-16 13:43:01

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Re: Bitter die

Ah, okay. I will try getting something out of the chain.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#40 2014-09-16 13:45:36

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Re: Bitter die

Let me know what you get and thanks for working on the problem.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#41 2014-09-16 13:47:04

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Re: Bitter die

Will do. Thank you for posting it!

I hope for more of these in the near future.


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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