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#1 2007-03-03 01:32:52

Toast
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Super Savant

http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/44/brain_man

Amazing

This guy can remember pi to 22,514 decimal places, can calculate products like 31×31×31×31×31 in the blink of an eye, and if you give him any date, he'll tell you the day.

Not to mention he learnt Icelandic in a week.

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#2 2007-03-03 02:13:47

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Re: Super Savant

Yep, I saw this on television quite a long time ago. Quite cool. Maybe I can beat his record.

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#3 2007-03-03 05:16:33

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Re: Super Savant

You're saying he's remembering pi to 22,514 - but according to himself, he sees the decimals like a landscape, and can recite them without having seen them before. That is, he's kinda calculating the decimals. He might just be making that up though. Also, when he multiplies two numbers, he sees each number as a shape spaced apart. He can then 'analyze' the shape in between and find the product. Again, that's his words.

I saw a program about savants in general, and him in particular. Very interresting program

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#4 2007-03-03 05:39:49

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Re: Super Savant

Pretty cool.  Entirely useless.

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#5 2007-03-04 03:25:25

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Re: Super Savant

Well, depends. Can prove to be useful with regards to how we think.

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#6 2007-03-04 05:45:35

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Re: Super Savant

Oh, sorry, I was talking about in regards to math.

"In the real world, this would be a problem.  But in mathematics, we can just define a place where this problem doesn't exist.  So we'll go ahead and do that now..."

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#7 2007-03-04 05:47:15

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Re: Super Savant

He should remember it like the rest of us; It's hard doing that without being a Super Savant!

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#8 2007-03-06 02:03:07

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Re: Super Savant

Is Memory a real sign of Intelligent's?

A.R.B

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#9 2007-03-06 20:56:29

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Re: Super Savant

Well... I'm sure he would stand a better chance than the average human at solving maths' biggest problems...

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#10 2007-03-06 23:59:14

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Re: Super Savant

Anthony.R.Brown wrote:

Is Memory a real sign of Intelligent's?

A.R.B

In a word, no.

If you really care why I'll find some resources.

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#11 2007-03-07 01:08:15

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Re: Super Savant

To Sekky

Quote:

" In a word, no.

If you really care why I'll find some resources. "

A.R.B

where can you remember the Word NO! from!!

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#12 2007-03-07 01:10:29

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Re: Super Savant

I bet he has good memory.

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#13 2007-03-07 01:40:43

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To George,Y

(:

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#14 2007-03-07 01:41:21

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Re: Super Savant

It depends what you mean by the question.

Memory is a sign of intelligence if you mean it in the sense that dogs, pigs and sheep are intelligent, but chairs, mountains and blenders are not.

However, just because someone has an excellent memory does not necessarily mean that they are more intelligent than everyone else.

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#15 2007-03-07 13:56:45

John E. Franklin
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My memory is just average or even below average, but I'm good at think with what I do know.
Memory is very important when analyzing a large computer program that you yourself did
not write.  Trust me, been there.

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#16 2019-12-09 18:43:24

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Re: Super Savant

Devantè wrote:

He should remember it like the rest of us; It's hard doing that without being a Super Savant!

Isn't Savant a mental illness, though? I used to think that I have a savant syndrome since my friends think I'm crazy and good at math. However, after spending some years on some math forums, I realized that compared to most others, my math skill is low and I think I don't deserve the title "savant", probably just crazy.

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#17 2019-12-09 19:58:37

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Re: Super Savant

Monox D. I-Fly wrote:
Devantè wrote:

He should remember it like the rest of us; It's hard doing that without being a Super Savant!

Isn't Savant a mental illness, though? I used to think that I have a savant syndrome since my friends think I'm crazy and good at math. However, after spending some years on some math forums, I realized that compared to most others, my math skill is low and I think I don't deserve the title "savant", probably just crazy.

Savant syndrome is a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrates certain abilities far in excess of average. The skills at which savants excel are generally related to memory. This may include rapid calculation, artistic ability, map making, or musical ability. Usually just one special skill is present.

Those with the condition generally have a neurodevelopmental disorder such as autism spectrum disorder or have a brain injury. About half of the cases are associated with autism and may be known as "autistic savants". While the condition usually becomes apparent in childhood, some cases may develop later in life. It is not recognized as a mental disorder within the DSM-5.

The condition is rare. One estimate is that it affects about one in a million people. Cases of female savants are even less common than those of males. The first medical account of the condition was in 1783. Among those with autism between 1 in 10 to 200 have savant syndrome to some degree. It is estimated that there are fewer than a hundred savants with extraordinary skills currently living.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM–5) is the product of more than 10 years of effort by hundreds of international experts in all aspects of mental health. Their dedication and hard work have yielded an authoritative volume that defines and classifies mental disorders in order to improve diagnoses, treatment, and research.

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