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#1 2006-09-22 18:15:21
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Transcendental Numbers
Whats so special about the TN
1.444667861..................?????? 
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#2 2006-09-22 18:41:26
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
Do a google search for "1.444667861", and look at the first result 
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#3 2006-09-22 18:46:15
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
whats a transcendantal number? also why is pi pi? i mean as in why is 1.something called pi whats so special about it?
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#4 2006-09-22 20:03:35
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
Transcendental Numbers are numbers that cannot be written using an equation.
Like x²+1=0.
If Google has a result for 1.444667861, I am happy. I shall search and then post.
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#5 2006-09-22 20:13:10
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
I hope it returns the same result for you that it did for me.
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#6 2006-09-22 20:17:23
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
i dont get it still...
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#7 2006-09-22 20:32:17
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
Wow! We get back to MathsIsFun forum
espeon, you'd have to wait a little
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#8 2006-09-22 21:05:36
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Aw ok
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#9 2006-09-23 02:36:53
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
A number that can't be written as an equation eh? Infatuating!
A logarithm is just a misspelled algorithm.
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#10 2006-09-23 03:48:34
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
Can you prove it's transcendental?
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#11 2006-09-23 04:02:02
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
whats a transcendantal number? also why is pi pi? i mean as in why is 1.something called pi whats so special about it?
Pi is the ratio of a circle's diameter to it's circumference. So if you measured both of these on any given circle, you would find that:
circumference = pi * diameter.
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#12 2006-09-24 01:24:41
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pi is 1. 4 something ssomething and i don hve a clur what transcendental ismlol
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#13 2006-09-24 03:02:48
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
Pi is 3.141592... (the digits go on for ever, and never repeat)
The numbers on the number line can be split onto two groups: those that are algebraic and those that are transcendental.
Algebraic numbers are a solution to a polynomial equation* where all the coefficients** are whole numbers. So, for example, the number 2 is algebraic, because it is the solution to the equation:
the number [sup]3[/sup]/[sub]2[/sub] is algebraic because it is the solution of:
and the square root of 2 is algebraic, as it is the solution of:
A transcendental number is any number that is not algebraic. As it happens, pi is transcendental.
* a polynomial equation is one like:
or
or
** in the above equations,
, , and are the coefficients of the equation.Bad speling makes me [sic]
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#14 2006-09-24 04:18:43
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dont worry i guess ill learn it in key stage 4 or something
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#15 2006-09-25 18:36:53
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dont worry i guess ill learn it in key stage 4 or something
doubt it, im moving onto A-Level maths, and ive never even heard of transcendental numbers before now 
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#16 2006-09-26 03:16:22
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o good luck in ur a lvls
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#18 2017-04-29 22:21:16
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
Hi zetafunc,
is 1 and is . approaches 2.7182818284....I think it is transcendental. I am not too sure.
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#19 2017-05-02 14:27:03
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Re: Transcendental Numbers
ganesh wrote:Whats so special about the TN
1.444667861..................??????Is it known if this number (i.e. e^(1/e)) is transcendental?
It has not been proven to be transcendental, I don't think.
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