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#1 2024-09-16 23:05:20

paulb203
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BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

When referring to speed on this page they often say things like,

“The bus has a constant speed of 10ms-¹"

I've not seen this before. I'm used to seeing speed given as simply, for example, 10m/s

Why the -¹ ?

I've noticed also for acceleration instead of saying, 10m/s/s, or 10m/s², they write 10m s -². Why might they do this?


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#2 2024-09-16 23:17:53

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

Velocity or speed is given by m/s (meters per second) and Acceleration is given in Meters per second squared.



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#3 2024-09-17 10:47:43

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

I guess you know that x^m/x^n = x^(m-n)
Therefore, x^a/x^a = 1 = x^0, x could be any number.

Now we can write:
1/s = s^0/s^1 = s^(0-1) = s^-1 ===> s-¹
Similarly,
1/s^2 = s^0/s^2 = s^(0-2) = s^-2 ===> s-²

Last edited by KerimF (2024-09-19 00:08:24)


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#4 2024-09-24 21:45:55

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

Jai Ganesh wrote:

Velocity or speed is given by m/s (meters per second) and Acceleration is given in Meters per second squared.



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Thanks, Jai Ganesh.

Why does ms^-2 give velocity?

ms^-2
= m x (1/s^2), yeah?
= m/s^2, yeah?
= m/(s x s), yeah?

If I've got that right, why does m/(s x s) give velocity?

I thought velocity was simply, for example, 10m/s downwards, or 30mph East, etc?


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#5 2024-09-24 22:02:26

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

KerimF wrote:

I guess you know that x^m/x^n = x^(m-n)
Therefore, x^a/x^a = 1 = x^0, x could be any number.

Now we can write:
1/s = s^0/s^1 = s^(0-1) = s^-1 ===> s-¹
Similarly,
1/s^2 = s^0/s^2 = s^(0-2) = s^-2 ===> s-²

Thanks, KerimF

A very helpful explanation. I think I've followed all of that.

But I think my problem is how I see the term, "metres per second".

Although I've always used the shorthand, "m/s", I never saw that forward slash symbol as a division symbol; I never saw "m/s" as a fraction. I just saw it as a short way of writing "metres per second". I'm now wondering if this sounds absurd, that I've not seen it in this way. But, until now, it's not been put to me that it's a fraction.

So, why does, "m/s" mean, "metres DIVIDED BY seconds"?

If I walk at a pace of 2m/s, I cover a distance of 2m for every second that ticks by. Does that mean 2 metres DIVIDED BY 1 second? Which equals 2m (per second).

And if I walked at a pace of 2m/2s, i.e, 2m for every 2s that tick by, the fraction would be; 2m DIVIDED BY 2S, which equals 1m per second?

Apologies in advance if this sounds ridiculously basic.


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#6 2024-09-24 22:07:41

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

Hi paulb203,



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#7 2024-09-25 04:22:35

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

paulb203 wrote:

If I walk at a pace of 2m/s, I cover a distance of 2m for every second that ticks by. Does that mean 2 metres DIVIDED BY 1 second? Which equals 2m (per second).

And if I walked at a pace of 2m/2s, i.e, 2m for every 2s that tick by, the fraction would be; 2m DIVIDED BY 2S, which equals 1m per second?

Apologies in advance if this sounds ridiculously basic.

Your remark is good.

And you are right. In the expression (2 m/s), the forward slash symbol, in itself, doesn't represent a division as in the formula v=x/t.
In 2 m/s, it simply tells us that the result 2 came from a division (as mentioned by Jai).
Similarly, 2 m/s² just tells us that 2 is the result of two divisions.


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#8 2024-09-26 02:36:05

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

paulb203 wrote:

When referring to speed on this page they often say things like,

“The bus has a constant speed of 10ms-¹"

I've not seen this before. I'm used to seeing speed given as simply, for example, 10m/s

Why the -¹ ?

I've noticed also for acceleration instead of saying, 10m/s/s, or 10m/s², they write 10m s -². Why might they do this?

I have never seen that before.


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#9 2024-09-26 22:49:16

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Re: BBC Bitesize (Acceleration)

Thanks, everyone.
I'm going to let all of this brew for a while then come back to it smile


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