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#1 2025-08-20 00:32:55

Zach Alie
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"I just want to disappear, i want to become nothing, just turn to dust, and let that dust glide forevermore across the vasteness of space" - Nomad of Stars


"what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" - Christopher Eric Hitchens

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#2 2025-08-20 09:55:55

KerimF
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Re: Empty

Please don't worry, our created physical body (bounded by time and space) is programmed already to return, sooner or later, to its raw state, to nothingness (state before birth). But ...


Every living thing has no choice but to execute its pre-programmed instructions embedded in it (known as instincts).
But only a human may have the freedom and ability to oppose his natural robotic nature.
But, by opposing it, such a human becomes no more of this world.

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#3 2025-08-20 18:26:39

Zach Alie
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Re: Empty

Perhaps you are right — maybe I am only yearning for what is already promised. Yet, in the waiting, I feel the weight of existing, and the silence of nothingness calls to me even before it arrives.


"what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" - Christopher Eric Hitchens

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#4 Yesterday 00:01:58

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Re: Empty

Besides my birth, I am forced to exist in the time-space realm every time my living body has to wake up from its deep sleep, as preprogrammed (by design).
It happens that, sometimes before the wake up of my living body, I am forced to also exist in a realm not bounded by time and space (usually called a dream). So, I lose my existence in a dream when I return back to the time-space realm.

If we see the deep sleep as a short sample of the state of death, a dream could be a short sample of the everlasting realm/dream (a dead body cannot wake up to end it).


Every living thing has no choice but to execute its pre-programmed instructions embedded in it (known as instincts).
But only a human may have the freedom and ability to oppose his natural robotic nature.
But, by opposing it, such a human becomes no more of this world.

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#5 Yesterday 00:34:15

Zach Alie
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Yes, I see dreams as a fleeting escape — a doorway beyond time and space. If eternal, they could be realms where the mind wanders unchained, shaping infinity with imagination. Yet, even there, might we still carry the weight of our human nature, binding us with invisible chains, reminding us that even dreams are not without their bounds?

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#6 Yesterday 05:30:14

KerimF
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Re: Empty

From the dream samples which I had (I am 75), I noticed that, in general, they reflect, in one way or another, the essence of how I treat and think of others.
It happened that, since I was teen, I chose not to be of the world; that is not to be a living robot guided solely by its preprogrammed instructions (like the instincts of survival, superiority, selfishness and applying justice on others, to name a few).

So, I used to live an unconditional love/care towards all others, good and evil. Yes, I don't judge anyone, the only one I may judge is me when I do something wrong because of ignorance.

Since I don't fear death, I used to love even my worst enemies (I even thank them for helping me proving to myself I am not a living robot whose preprogrammed duty is to defend itself by any available means).

Therefore, naturally, I feel well in every dream no matter whom I may see in it. I can't see sort of nightmare that many people claim to have once a while.

Many used to see me as a big loser. But every human, I included, will lose everything at death. At least, I lived in a way so that, in case I may exist in a dream-like eternal realm, I will enjoy it as I do now.

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Every living thing has no choice but to execute its pre-programmed instructions embedded in it (known as instincts).
But only a human may have the freedom and ability to oppose his natural robotic nature.
But, by opposing it, such a human becomes no more of this world.

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#7 Yesterday 15:30:52

Zach Alie
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I cannot see beyond death. To me, it is the end — no realm, no dream, no awakening, only nothing. Every other vision of afterlife is only a possibility, yet if one were to chase a single possibility, would it not follow that we must chase them all to truly be secure? And since they contradict one another, how could any path be certain? Perhaps that is why I choose to walk with the void — the only truth I can conclude.


"what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence" - Christopher Eric Hitchens

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#8 Yesterday 20:13:55

KerimF
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Re: Empty

In science (related to the physical world), we don't need to see things to know they exist.
For example, we still don't know how two masses detect the presence of each other; that is the exact process (the mechanism) by which they communicate and attract each other, even in vacuum. We just refer to it by gravity waves or gravity field.
We know the existence of this unknown process by logical reasoning.

On the other hand, if, in a test, a stimulated object gives sometimes, for a single input, two different, if not opposing, outputs, we can say that its structure is formed by two separated systems in case repeating the same test gives always the same outputs (otherwise, it could be a damaged object).
But if the stimulated object gives always, for the same input, the same one output, it is formed by one system only.

I applied this analysis/test on myself (the object under test). I noticed, since I was teen, that when someone hurts me, I live two possibilities:
If I hurt him back, I have two opposite feelings: proud for being brave and sad for seeing him hurt.
If I stop myself to revenge, I have also two opposite feelings: ashamed for being coward and a sort of joy for being strong to control my programmed body.

I don't know about other humans, I just know that there are two separate systems (or whatever their names might be) in my actual living structure. While I exist now with both of them, there is always the possibility that I may also exist with one of them only (likely with the non-physical one, since my physical system has to return back, sooner or later, to its raw state, to nothingness).


Every living thing has no choice but to execute its pre-programmed instructions embedded in it (known as instincts).
But only a human may have the freedom and ability to oppose his natural robotic nature.
But, by opposing it, such a human becomes no more of this world.

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