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#1 2007-01-06 16:56:56

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Reaction Math with High Scores

I promised to add a High Scores facility to Reaction Math, and I now have something for you to *try out*

I am not saying it works properly yet, but well enough for you to play with smile

The "Score" is basically your speed in questions per minute, but with a 2 question penalty per incorrect answer. You need to press the "Attempt" button, as it sets how many questions you need to answer (40 usually, but 30 for harder levels).

All opinions and corrections, including scoring method, etc, welcome

(If we don't make any fundamental changes your scores will stand, otherwise I may have to wipe them if we change things a lot)


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#2 2007-01-06 17:26:14

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Thats a good job, MathsIsFun!
Speed is essential, in fact, it is this which separates the chaff from the grain!!! Mathematicians are expected to think ptetty quickly....
The importance of the time factor for mathematicians can well be understood from the fact that the Field's Medal, the Nobel equivalent in mathematics, is not given to people over 40! Which mans, if you haven't done something wothwhile before 40, you would never do!
Once again, well done, Captain smile


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#3 2007-01-06 20:31:32

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Excellent! The highscore board is a great addition. up smile

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#4 2007-01-06 20:51:12

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Very nice, MathsIsFun. I'll be playing this all day. smile

Also, the 'é' is still driving it crazy...

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#5 2007-01-06 21:26:50

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

I think you should only keep the highest score for each user, to prevent the scoreboards from being bogged down by hundreds of records.

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#6 2007-01-07 02:43:31

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

I agree with that suggestion completely. As well as his reason, it also means that all of our bad attempts don't get recorded/can be replaced by better ones.


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#7 2007-01-07 09:41:25

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Thanks ... so just two things to fix:

1. Devant"e", and
2. Only highest score

I will get on to it soon.

Is 40/30 an adequate number of questions? Is scoring fair?


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#8 2007-01-07 21:44:50

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

MathsIsFun wrote:

I will get on to it soon.

That was quick. big_smile

So, does clicking 'add to high score' now mean it overwrites your current score (even if it is lower) or keeps the highest one?

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#9 2007-01-08 00:03:14

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Keeps the highest ... and if it doesn't just let me know smile

So far I have kept all high scores. I am still working on it. Nothing good comes easy cool


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#10 2007-01-08 01:43:18

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

If you click "add to high scores" then if the score you just got was better than your previous best then it overwrites it, but if it wasn't then it records it separately. So it's still recording multiple results from the same people.

Edit: Oh, no it's not. Those separate results get removed once you go away, and presumably are only shown to you in the first place.


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#11 2007-01-08 10:00:51

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Yes. I check to see if your score was on the board, if not I show "..." then your score, so you can gauge how far off you are. Good idea?


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#12 2007-01-08 10:38:03

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Yes, very good. It means that you can temporarily see the times from all your different attempts, which would let you work out your average and how consistent you are, but also not clutter up the high score board. I like how that works a lot.


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#13 2007-01-08 12:58:26

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Oh great ... I added to the High Scores as a Guest!

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#14 2007-01-08 13:05:20

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LOL!

But it does show that I should think of a way of asking you to log in if you aren't. Too complicated to figure that out right now, though neutral


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#15 2007-01-08 13:11:12

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

BTW: how did Toast get 99 on "Add Single" ? I see mathsy has made a valiant effort to reach 90.


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#16 2007-01-08 14:18:35

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Yes, I noticed that. Too good, too good!

I've also noticed that when the score is a whole number, e.g. I got 80, it doesn't show the two decimal places. Is is good the way it is, or should it be consistent (so it all lines up, too!)?

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#17 2007-01-08 15:51:32

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

MathsIsFun wrote:

BTW: how did Toast get 99 on "Add Single" ? I see mathsy has made a valiant effort to reach 90.

Hmm, let's see, some pepsi (for energy), a lot of attempts, minor headache, and a lot of luck. up

BTW: I think I got around .5 to .6 average time and all answers correct.

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#18 2007-01-08 22:01:40

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

OK, just a warning: I have added some security to avoid submitting scores by stealth. It works for me, hopefully it works for you still.

You should see a small "v1.1" in the top right hand corner, if not, use refresh.

Hope it still works smile

BTW: if "High Scores" works for everyone, I could extend it to other games. In fact ... what games would you like?


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#19 2007-01-09 02:01:44

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

I'm not sure what other games we have where it would be useful to have a high score list. In most of them, you just play them and either win or lose, with no score involved.

Incidentally, how are the scores for the reaction math worked out? It's presumably something to do with combining the number of right answers with the average time, but I don't see what the formula could be. Is it possible to break 100?


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#20 2007-01-09 09:48:35

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

The score is: (TotalAnswers - 2*WrongAnswers) * (60000/TotalElapsed)

TotalElapsed is in milliSeconds


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#21 2007-01-09 10:21:50

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Ah, I see. That's quite good actually, because it means that each wrong answer penalises your score more heavily than the previous one.

So, that means that to get a score of 100, we need an average of 0.6s per answer (assuming we got them all right).


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#22 2007-01-09 19:58:14

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

mathsyperson wrote:

So, that means that to get a score of 100, we need an average of 0.6s per answer (assuming we got them all right).

Yes, and considering that underlying reaction times are between 0.2s and 0.3s it doesn't leave much time to read the question, get the answer and choose the right fingers for the answer.

You may be able to get a small improvement by bypassing your "reaction time" and getting a rhythm going. Just a thought.


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#23 2007-01-09 20:11:47

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Yep, I usually find the first few questions are the slowest, and then the rest come much faster.

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#24 2007-01-10 16:20:37

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

It would be nice if we had a weekly or even daily high-score board to encourage more use of this mathematical tool. Otherwise, once the 'eternal' highscores have been set, usage may stagnate.

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#25 2007-01-10 17:44:09

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Re: Reaction Math with High Scores

Exactly! Thank you "Champ" smile

You can still win a running race even if you don't break a world record.

So ... you click on "High Scores", and it shows you the the High Scores for the week, and there is another button "All Time High Scores"? Something like that?


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