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LQ

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Wave energy canoe, plausible?

I was thinking of that wave energy plant, made of a long cylinder shaped structure that bends at 2 splitting points. If you could make a canoe of that, perhaps it could have a small engine, driven by the energy it collects. Or is the magnetic field too strong? Perhaps you can show me where it wouldn't work etc.

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

made of a long cylinder shaped structure that bends at 2 splitting points

How does a long cylinder shaped structure that bends at 2 splitting points collect energy?

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

At the splitting points, there are dynamoes. It is possibly the most efficient method of collecting wave energy at this current time.

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Dynamo, which just simply means electrical generator, is a device for turning mechanical energy to electrical.  Where is this mechanical energy coming from?

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George,Y

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Perhaps a link will better explain what you are trying to tell us, LQ.

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LQ

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Dynamo, which just simply means electrical generator, is a device for turning mechanical energy to electrical.  Where is this mechanical energy coming from?

The three parts jolt in the waves and are united at the dynamoes which are bend points. Does that make things clear?

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Not at all.

The three parts jolt

What three parts?

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

LQ, what am I supposed to get out of that?

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

(cracks up) sorry but all this confusion is making me laugh.

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LQ

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

It looks like a canoe, but it has the abillity to take up energy from bending, and if you don't know how that could work, then you have overslept your physics lessons.

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

LQ, that's a joke.  You've told me a it's a canoe with two splitting points with electric generators.  Do you honestly expect me to have any idea what the heck you are talking about?

has the abillity to take up energy from bending

What bends it?  Is the material elastic?  What material is this "canoe" made from anyways?  How does the bending of something give mechanical energy to power a generator?

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LQ

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

It bends at two hingelike parts where accidentily also the dynamo is which accidentily produce electricity.
example:

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the Oes are the hinges and the H's are the floating thingies which moves with the waves.
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H                  H      H
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It bends with the waves.

Is that somewhat clear or do I have to draw a terrible dada picture which you cannot interpret?

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Ok, now what kind of waves are we talking about?

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

If the canoe was to be built, the length of the 3 parts would automatically adjust to the size of the waves. If more then 3 parts were required, this would also be adjusted, though that would be much like a transformer so perhaps one should just adjust it for the best preformance possible. I can see that the canoe could be adjusted manualy if you had lots of different parts etc.

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

I'm going to assume we are referring to water waves?

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LQ

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

That is a correct assumption.

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

So, you're saying a wave energy canoe could generate energy from the waves in water and that energy could be used for powering electrical devices? Seems strange, but a very good and possible idea.

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LQ

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Or more energy efficient yet, some sort of simple mechanical divice, that runs a propeller, enhancing the speed of the boat.

As for realising this invention, that might get tough. I'll see when I have the money for it.

The end product wouldn't be much more expensive then a couple of bicycles though.

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Ricky

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Sure, it would generate energy.  Efficiently?  I doubt it.  Enough to generate propulsion?  Not a chance.

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LQ

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Re: Wave energy canoe, plausible?

Have you made a draft?

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