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#101 Help Me ! » population model » 2008-11-02 11:47:32

LuisRodg
Replies: 1

lets say you have a population with a initial population at time zero of 15000. This population decreases 5% of last year's population and increases a flat amount of 400 every year.

So you can write it recursively:

f(t) =0.95f(t-1)+400

How do you write it in closed form?

#102 Re: Help Me ! » Find the Co-ordinates!! » 2008-11-01 03:51:01

http://www.mathisfunforum.com/viewtopic.php?id=10891

I solved this problem in the above link using vectors and basic algebra.

#103 Re: Help Me ! » Help Me!!!! » 2008-11-01 03:49:33

Why cant u use vectors? Anyways here is the solution using just basic algebra:

So we have:
A(1,2)
B(8,3)
P(x,0)   --> (x,0) because since P lies on the x-axis, its y-coord will always be 0.

So we have the line1 from A -> P and the line2 from B -> P. When you have two points, you can always find the slope of the line through this two points by doing rise/run. Or:

(y2-y1)/(x2-x1)

So we find the slope of line1:

m1 = (2-0)/(1-x) = 2/(1-x)

And we find the slope of line2:

m2 = (3-0)/(8-x) = 3/(8-x)

So we have the slopes of the two lines in unknown x. When two lines are perpendicular, m1 = -1/m2.

So we have: m1 = -1/m2

2/(1-x) = -(8-x)/3 = (x-8)/3

We cross multiply and we get:(1-x)(x-8) = 6
x-8-x^2+8x = 6
x^2 - 9x = -14

Completing the square we get:

x^2 - 9x + 81/4 = -14 + 81/4
(x - 9/2)^2 = 25/4
x - 9/2 = +- 5/2
x = +- 5/2 + 9/2

x1 = 7
x2 = 2

So since P(x,0) and we have x1 and x2 then it follows that the points P are (7,0) and (2,0).

#104 Re: Help Me ! » Functions » 2008-10-31 08:47:02

Maybe im missing something...

We need to find g such that g(g(x)) = f(x) and f(x) = x + 1

So then let g(x) = x + 1/2 and:

g(g(x)) = (x + 1/2) + 1/2 = x + 1 = f(x)

#106 Re: Help Me ! » Functions » 2008-10-31 00:26:10

You have a given g(x) function, when it says to find a function g, does it mean to find a new function?

#107 Re: This is Cool » New discovery » 2008-10-30 07:38:17

You mean he found a way to calculate determinants or to calculate with determinants?

Either way, could you provide us with a link or something?

#108 Re: Help Me ! » Power Sets » 2008-10-29 04:19:31

Hello Jane,

Was there anything wrong in my written proof?

Thanks.

#109 Re: Help Me ! » Help Me!!!! » 2008-10-29 00:05:16

So you have the points A and B given and arbitrary point P.

The line A to P can be represented as a vector from the point A to P.
v1 = P - A = <x-1, y-2>

The line B to P can be represented as a vector from the point B to P.
v2 = P - B = <x-8, y-3>

So if the two lines (vectors) are perpendicular, it means that their dot product is equal to 0. So we have:

v1 * v2 = 0
(x-1)(x-8) + (y-2)(y-3) = 0
x^2 - 8x - x + 8 + y^2 - 3y - 2y + 6 = 0
x^2 - 9x + y^2 - 5y = -14

Completing the square we get:

x^2 - 9x + (81/4) + y^2 - 5y + (25/4) = -14 + (81/4) + (25/4)
x^2 - 9x + (81/4) + y^2 - 5y + (25/4) = 25/2
(x - 9/2)^2 + (y - 5/2)^2 = 25/2

So all the points P that make the two lines perpendicular lie on the circle with center (9/2 , 5/2) and radius 5/sqrt(2).

Edit: I just noticed that you said that P needs to be in the x-axis. If P is in the x axis, then P will always have the form P(x,0) since y=0 in all the x-axis.

(x - 9/2)^2 + (y - 5/2)^2 = 25/2
(x - 9/2)^2 + (0 - 5/2)^2 = 25/2
(x - 9/2)^2 + 25/4 = 25/2
(x - 9/2)^2 = 25/4
x - 9/2 = +- 5/2
x = +- 5/2 + 9/2

x1 = 7
x2 = 2

So all the points P that make the two lines perpendicular and lie on the x-axis are the points P1(7,0) and P2(2,0)

#110 Re: Help Me ! » Power Sets » 2008-10-28 23:41:40

Remember that the power set is a set itself and anytime you want to prove that a set is equal to another set you have to show two things, that is you need to prove that one set is a subset of the other and vice versa. If you have, for example, sets A and B, and you want to show that A = B then you need to show that A is a subset of B and B is a subset of A. That proves that A = B.

So we want to prove:

P (A ∩ B) = P (A) ∩ P (B)

So we take arbitrary x in P(A ∩ B). Since x is in P(A ∩ B) then we know that x is a subset of A ∩ B by definition of the power set. Since x is in A ∩ B then we know that x is in A and x is in B. Since x is in A and in B then it follows that x is in P(A) and x is in P(B). Hence x is in P (A) ∩ P (B). So we have showed that P (A ∩ B) is a subset of P (A) ∩ P (B).

So now we take arbitrary x in P (A) ∩ P (B). So it follows that x is in P(A) and x is in P(B). By the definition of the power set, it follows that x is a subset of A and x is a subset of B. Since x is a subset of A and B, then it follows that x is in A ∩ B. Since x is in A ∩ B, then it follows that x is in the power set of A ∩ B, that is x is in P(A ∩ B). So we have showed that P (A) ∩ P (B) is a subset of P(A ∩ B).

This completes the proof that P (A ∩ B) = P (A) ∩ P (B).

#112 Re: Help Me ! » Becoming a Mathematician... » 2008-10-27 05:56:21

The class Axiomatic Set Theory is actually part of the Math Department, do some universities teach it within the Philosophy Department? I was surprised to hear your question since I never heard that. For the class we are going to be using:

Introduction to Set Theory (3rd edition) by Karel Hrbacek & Thomas Jech
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Revised-Expanded-Applied-Mathematics/dp/0824779150/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225129736&sr=8-1

For algebra we going to be using:

“Advanced Modern Algebra” by J. Rotman
http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-Modern-Algebra-Joseph-Rotman/dp/0130878685/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1225130025&sr=1-1

and for analysis:

Real Analysis by John M. Howie.

Have any opinion on this books?

#113 Re: Help Me ! » Becoming a Mathematician... » 2008-10-26 12:19:15

Its ok.

I had forgotten I made this thread a year ago. Thanks for reviving it!

So here I am a year later, im still on my journey of being a math major and up to now I havent encountered any roadblock. I finished all the Calc1, Calc2, Calc3, Discrete Mathematics and Linear Algebra. Im currently taking Introduction to Advanced Mathematics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Modeling.

Next semester im taking Real Analysis, Abstract Algebra and Axiomatic Set Theory. As well as 2 other classes for my CS minor. Lets see how that goes. One thing that Im really happy though, is that I have lost the fear I had.

Thanks.

#114 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-06 18:45:56

Where A and B are sets?

I never knew that sets had addition defined.

I just cant picture the addition of two sets? My mind keeps thinking addition means union.

what is {1,2,5} + {2,3,6,7}? Just so I could see how you add sets.

#115 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-06 12:46:02

When you say:

What do you mean by "+" ?

#116 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-06 12:42:40

Oh, so I guess my professor meant:

But he wrote it like a normal plus sign and not the "exclusive" sign like you said. Are they interchangeable when talking about sets?

#117 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-06 12:01:49

Thanks a lot guys. Today (friday) I sat down and went over everything Ricky told me to understand as well as went over Jane's proofs just so I could understand them.

Also, seems like I made a mistake. Its not "union" its "+" as in:

I thought in this case, plus was the same as union but thats not case which Jane proved so. Supposedly, the one with + is supposed to hold true.

What does + means in sets? Like, is addition defined in Set Theory?

#118 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-05 14:53:17

If R(A) = R(A^2) that means that the set that A maps into is the same set that A^2 maps into as well. But im not really sure I get what does R(A) = R(A^2) really imply? What does it really mean that the range of A is the same as the range of A^2?

I tried to play with it for a while but I couldnt derive anything meaningful out of it. What does it mean if y = A(R(A)) etc?

If something is not in R(A) then it is in N(A) which is why R(A) U N(A) = R^n, I understand that part. I feel im missing "something" that just makes all this "click" together.

As I said, I been thinking and pondering about this for a couple days now but with my limited mathematical knowledge, I havent been able to derive anything. But its always good to have a problem in your head your always thinking about, I guess.

#119 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-05 11:54:21

For purposes outside of my initial question, can you post your proof that R(A^2) is always a subset of R(A)?

#120 Re: Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-05 11:27:10

The thing is that each side individually is not always true. You have to assume one side and proof it implies the other side. Vice versa.

Is that what you meant?

#121 Help Me ! » linear algebra proof » 2008-06-05 08:53:57

LuisRodg
Replies: 17

I been trying to prove this for 2 days and I havent been able to. I have to prove this:

Could anyone help me with a hint?

Thanks.

#122 Help Me ! » Matrix representation of a Linear Transformation. » 2008-06-05 08:34:41

LuisRodg
Replies: 0

I have a quick question.

This is a problem in the book:

So to solve this I did the following:

So in a quiz today, we were given a similar question to solve and I solved it using the *same* method as I showed before. However, after I finished, I noticed that the question in the quiz was a little different and that difference was that the linear transformation was defined differently. Instead of being defined as:

It was defined like this:

Does this change anything?

Thanks!

#123 Help Me ! » Linear Algebra » 2008-05-14 07:27:19

LuisRodg
Replies: 1

Show that if A is symmetric nonsingular, then A^-1 is also symmetric. A is a matrix in R^(nxn)

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#125 Re: Dark Discussions at Cafe Infinity » No more high school!!! » 2008-05-01 03:49:46

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