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#1 2014-06-13 08:13:40

harrychess
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Algebra II Type Problems

Could someone explain how to do these problems?

Compute the sum

Sorry, I can't figure out how to put this problem without code.

Find the ordered quintuplet (a,b,c,d,e) that satisfies the system of equations
a+2b+3c+4d+5e=177
2a+3b+4c+5d+e=154
3a+4b+5c+d+2e=146dss
4a+5b+c+2d+3e=138
5a+b+2c+3d+4e=165

The sequence

, has the property that
for all
, then determine
.

Find the largest four-digit value of t such that

}...
} is an integer.

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#2 2014-06-13 08:18:00

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Hi;

The latexing on the first one is unclear.

The latexing on the last problem is not showing please correct it.

For all your latexing needs please go here.

http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php


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#3 2014-06-13 08:40:19

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

On the first problem, it goes like this. One over the square root of 100 plus the square root of 102. That is added to one over the square root of 102 plus the square root of 104. This continues all the way to one over the square root of 9998 plus the square root of 10000.

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#4 2014-06-13 08:43:43

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

You mean like this.


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#5 2014-06-13 08:59:05

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

yes, all the way to 1 over the square root of 9998 plus the square root of 10000.

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#6 2014-06-13 09:09:21

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Hi;

Now how about problem #4, I can not see the latex.


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#7 2014-06-13 11:12:30

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Hi harrychess


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#8 2014-06-13 14:00:21

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

What was the problem?


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#9 2014-06-13 14:02:20

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Hi bobbym

You need to find the largest four digit number t such that sqrt(t-sqrt(t-sqrt(t-...))) is an integer.

Last edited by anonimnystefy (2014-06-13 14:03:08)


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#10 2014-06-13 14:03:08

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Okay, thank you.


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#11 2014-06-13 14:08:17

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

No problem!

Looked at your #1 and #3 and they seem correct.


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#12 2014-06-13 14:09:46

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Of course they are correct. Know how to get the answers?


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#13 2014-06-13 14:16:40

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

The first one yes. The second one I did barely, because they set it up the way they did. I did a lot of writing on that one.


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#14 2014-06-13 14:18:03

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

The simultaneous equations?


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#15 2014-06-13 14:18:52

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

No, the Fibonacci one.


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#16 2014-06-13 14:22:54

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

That one takes an ansatz!


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#17 2014-06-13 14:27:15

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

It doesn't, but it might be quicker that way.


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#18 2014-06-13 14:28:18

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Did you get the right answer?


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#19 2014-06-13 14:29:34

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

I did.

Also, I think I remember something from Wilf's book that can solve this.


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#20 2014-06-13 14:31:22

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

I have been trying to teach a few in here how to exploit the problem itself. That one might be BM3!


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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#21 2014-06-13 14:38:02

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Exploit the problem itself?


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#22 2014-06-13 14:41:19

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Yep, Feynman style! See you later, got to cook dinner for 3. Congratulations again.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#23 2014-06-13 14:46:54

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Thanks! See ya. You owe me an explanation for this one, though!


“Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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#24 2014-06-13 17:25:50

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

They are kind of minor on this one.


In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.

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#25 2014-06-13 23:24:51

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Re: Algebra II Type Problems

Who is?


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“Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most.” ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.

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