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#51 2014-12-28 23:26:00
Re: Permutations
I proved myself the King of Idiots by proving him an idiot, which is no honor.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#52 2014-12-28 23:30:39
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Re: Permutations
You are correct.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#53 2014-12-28 23:33:32
Re: Permutations
That is what post 49 says.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#54 2014-12-28 23:34:50
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Re: Permutations
What was he saying?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#55 2014-12-28 23:45:05
Re: Permutations
You ruined some gamblers with Experimental Mathematics. You claim it to be not a good idea.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#56 2014-12-28 23:48:17
- bobbym
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Re: Permutations
You ruined some gamblers with Experimental Mathematics. You claim it to be not a good idea.
I do not follow you?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#57 2014-12-29 00:22:23
Re: Permutations
Do you remember gambling?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#58 2014-12-29 00:24:44
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Re: Permutations
I was never a gambler.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#59 2014-12-29 01:05:06
Re: Permutations
What was he saying?
Kenaram?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#60 2014-12-29 01:05:48
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Re: Permutations
Post #56, can you clarify who was saying that?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#61 2014-12-29 01:07:46
Re: Permutations
Nobody. I was reffering to you
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#62 2014-12-29 01:10:49
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Re: Permutations
Gambling is the wagering of money or something of material value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.
When you eliminate the uncertainty and chance, you are no longer gambling. You are earning a certain amount each hour, just like a wage. This is all clearly defined in the laws of expectation.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#63 2014-12-29 01:15:36
Re: Permutations
Who are you reffering to in post fifty four?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#64 2014-12-29 01:17:36
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Re: Permutations
The guy you proved was an idiot, but that is not important. Do you understand that definition ( post #62 ) which is straight from Wiki and is absolutely correct?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#65 2014-12-29 01:19:36
Re: Permutations
Ok, but that is not what I meant.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#66 2014-12-29 01:20:34
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Re: Permutations
I would like to answer your question so I have to ask, what did you mean?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#67 2014-12-29 01:23:08
Re: Permutations
You claimed to have 'stolen' some people's children's 'milk money'....
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#68 2014-12-29 01:26:27
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Re: Permutations
Stolen is a figure of speech. I never stole anything in my life, I do not believe in it. The morality of playing with people who are gambling while you are not may be questionable, I am not sure even today. It is true that mathematically they had no chance to win but that was only because they refused to play and study mathematics and computers as I did. They could have and their decision not to was one of free will.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#69 2014-12-29 01:29:27
Re: Permutations
The morality isn't in question. They were willing to put their money as a bait and there was no rule against using EM.
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#70 2014-12-29 01:31:14
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Re: Permutations
They were trying to win my money but using expectation the game became no different than chess. The better player wins, there is no element of chance and therefore no gambling.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#71 2014-12-29 01:33:06
Re: Permutations
Okay, but I did not mean to discuss whether it was gambling
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#72 2014-12-29 01:37:51
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Re: Permutations
That is okay. The question was whether it was morally correct... Back then I went with my gut on such decisions. If something bothered me after doing it, I would consider it morally wrong and would not do it anymore. But in this case, I had a different emotional reaction. But whatever, I learned much mathematics from DS, one of the finest teachers I have ever known.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#73 2014-12-29 01:39:44
Re: Permutations
I did not put the morality to question, you did.
Who is DS?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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#74 2014-12-29 01:46:40
- bobbym
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Re: Permutations
But you did mention it, so I assumed that it may have bothered you.
Davis Sklansky.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#75 2014-12-29 01:50:26
Re: Permutations
Can you teach me Pokr?
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
'God exists because Mathematics is consistent, and the devil exists because we cannot prove it'
I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested.
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