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**harpazo1965****Member**- Registered: 2022-09-19
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College Algebra

Section R.1

Why is the sum of a rational and irrational number irrational?

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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Prove this by assuming the converse.

Suppose a rational + an irrational is rational.

Re-arrange so that rational - rational = irrational. It is easy to prove that r - r is also rational.

Bob

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**harpazo1965****Member**- Registered: 2022-09-19
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Can you show me what you mean?

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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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Let a, b, c and d be integers.

ad - bc is an integer. bc is an integer. => the result of subtracting one rational from another is another rational.

Bob

Children are not defined by school ...........The Fonz

You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

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**harpazo1965****Member**- Registered: 2022-09-19
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You subtracted one fraction from another to show that the result will always be

rational.

Let me see.

(1/2) - (1/4) = 1/4

We know that 1/4 is a rational number.

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**Bob****Administrator**- Registered: 2010-06-20
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If you would like a bit of extra practice here's some proofs you could try.

Show that the sum (and product and division) of two rationals is also rational.

Show similarly that two irrationals, when combined using + - x or ÷ is also irrational.

We say the rationals are closed under these four operations and the irrationals are similarly closed.

Are the rationals closed when we apply the square root function?

(Harder) Show that any rational is either a terminating decimal (eg 1/4 = 0.25) or a recurring decimal (eg. 1/3 = 0.33333....)

Hence deduce that any irrational must have an infinite, non recurring decimal form.

Bob

Children are not defined by school ...........The Fonz

You cannot teach a man anything; you can only help him find it within himself..........Galileo Galilei

Sometimes I deliberately make mistakes, just to test you! …………….Bob

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**harpazo1965****Member**- Registered: 2022-09-19
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Thanks for the practice problems. I will explore each in greater detail on my days off.

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