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#1 2009-07-05 07:17:23

Gercel
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Help FInd derivative of Trig Function

f(x)= sin √ 3x³+3x  (Note its a square root of full function  3x³+3x )

Thats how I solved it.

    f'(x)= Cos(3x³+3x)^½
          = Cos ½(3x³+3x)^-½ × (9x²+3)
          = 9x²+3Cos½ (3x^³+3x)^-½

Did I derive it right??? because solution at the back show that the answer is:

9x^2+3/2 root (3x^2+3x) cos Root (3x^3+3x)


Please Tell me if mines is right or wrong?

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#2 2009-07-05 07:27:53

bobbym
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Re: Help FInd derivative of Trig Function

Hi Gercel;
You can't just say sin(whatever) when differentiated is cos(whatever) which is what you did in the first step. To check it I need something clearer than 9x²+3Cos½ (3x^³+3x)^-½ . What does the Cos1/2 stand for. Please bracket it off better.

Last edited by bobbym (2009-07-05 07:29:54)


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#3 2009-07-05 07:31:25

Gercel
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Re: Help FInd derivative of Trig Function

First I found the derivative of the outside function Sin and Square root, by moving 1/2 to the front.. Then I did the derivatuve if the inside function 3x³+3x.
Isnt that how Chain rule should work?

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#4 2009-07-05 07:34:42

bobbym
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Re: Help FInd derivative of Trig Function

Hi Gercel;

OK, lets see, 9x²+3Cos½ (3x^³+3x)^-½ what is the first 1/2 here, please use brackets as I don't understand the answer.

I have done the problem so you can check against yours:

Last edited by bobbym (2009-07-05 08:40:25)


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#5 2009-07-05 09:50:40

Gercel
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Re: Help FInd derivative of Trig Function

Wonderfull, Can you please explain how you got the answer.. please

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#6 2009-07-05 18:33:48

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Re: Help FInd derivative of Trig Function

To do

Say:


Chain rule is:

Now we can do dy/du but du/dx is hard so we use the chain rule again:

Say:

Chain rule:

so

Now you have du/dx. Now complete the top chain rule:

Last edited by bobbym (2009-07-05 18:37:35)


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