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#51 2013-03-27 00:38:51
- bobbym
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Re: Another coin problem
The sun sign is the position of the sun at birth. The rising sign is calculated from the hour. At least as far as I know.
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#52 2013-03-27 00:40:08
Re: Another coin problem
Okay maybe its the rising sign then..,
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#53 2013-03-27 00:41:29
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Re: Another coin problem
The 24 hours are divided into 2 hour periods and your rising sign is computed from there.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#54 2013-03-27 00:45:30
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Re: Another coin problem
Speaking of, my prof. recently asked us to search up a proof for the Linearity of Expectation function which I just found.
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#55 2013-03-27 00:58:06
Re: Another coin problem
I would like to see that.
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#56 2013-03-27 00:58:10
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Re: Another coin problem
The linearity of expectation is surprising because there is no need for independence.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#57 2013-03-27 01:01:14
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Re: Another coin problem
http://www.proofwiki.org/wiki/Linearity_of_Expectation_Function
Had been searching in textbooks for 6 days-then opened google.
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#58 2013-03-27 01:05:44
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Re: Another coin problem
2 problems:
The 52 cards are spread out in a line what is the expected number of adjacent cards of the same suit.
The 52 cards are spread out in a line what is the probability that adjacent cards are of the same suit.
One is hard and one is easy because of linearity.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#59 2013-03-27 01:10:08
Re: Another coin problem
Is the answer of the first 0.25*0.25*51??
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#60 2013-03-27 01:15:34
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Re: Another coin problem
Hi;
I am not getting that.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#61 2013-03-27 01:31:00
Re: Another coin problem
Why? Whats wrong?
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#62 2013-03-27 01:32:45
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Re: Another coin problem
The probability that the second card is the same suit given the first is 12 / 51.
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If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#63 2013-03-27 02:17:07
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Re: Another coin problem
I would say the answer to the first one is 12.
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#64 2013-03-27 02:19:30
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Re: Another coin problem
That is what I am getting too. Of course it is a bad answer!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#65 2013-03-27 02:21:54
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Re: Another coin problem
Actually, shouldn't it be 11?
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#66 2013-03-27 02:26:42
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Re: Another coin problem
Why do you think so?
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
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#67 2013-03-27 02:33:29
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Re: Another coin problem
No, sorry. I forgot there were 13 cards in a suit.
Why is the answer of 12 wrong then?
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Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
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#68 2013-03-27 02:37:26
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Re: Another coin problem
I did not say it is wrong. It is correct but it is still a bad answer. Sufficient for the people on forums but not sufficient for real work!
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#69 2013-03-27 02:48:54
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Re: Another coin problem
Why not?
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Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
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#70 2013-03-27 02:56:09
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Re: Another coin problem
Ever seen the way these guys work? Ever checked any of their answers? Conjectures that they never even try a single example against...
Numerical work demands 2 solutions for every problem! Combinatorics and probability should be treated with the same respect.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#71 2013-03-27 02:58:23
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Re: Another coin problem
Uh-huh. Ok, then we can also use a simulation to confirm the answer.
Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.
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#72 2013-03-27 03:00:14
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Re: Another coin problem
Already did that, got 12.0004. Now I can hand the answer into my boss and get paid the big bucks.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#73 2013-03-27 03:13:37
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Re: Another coin problem
You work in a casino?
Here lies the reader who will never open this book. He is forever dead.
Taking a new step, uttering a new word, is what people fear most. ― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment
The knowledge of some things as a function of age is a delta function.
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#74 2013-03-27 03:17:12
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Re: Another coin problem
Several of them in the past.
In mathematics, you don't understand things. You just get used to them.
If it ain't broke, fix it until it is.
Always satisfy the Prime Directive of getting the right answer above all else.
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#75 2013-03-27 03:48:19
Re: Another coin problem
(12/51)*51 = 12
Did you state that the cards were all from the same deck?
What is the answer to the other problem?
Last edited by Agnishom (2013-03-27 03:49:05)
'And fun? If maths is fun, then getting a tooth extraction is fun. A viral infection is fun. Rabies shots are fun.'
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