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harrychess

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Geometric Sequences

The

term in a certain geometric sequence is

and the

term in the sequence is

. What is the

term?

Agnishom

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Suppose the first term is a. And the common ratio is r.

ar^22=16
ar^27=24

Dividing the equations, you get r^5=24/16 = 3/2

Raising both sides to the fourth power, r^20 = 81/16

Multiply r^20 with, ar^22, you get ar^42=81/16*16 =81

done!

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Neat solution, Agnishom,

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Thank you, bob.

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Hi harrychess,

Also:

To find values of other terms just replace the '43' in either equation with the term number.

In the first 800,000 terms I only found five that are integers.

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harrychess

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Part (a): Find the sum

in terms of a and n.

Part (b): Find all pairs of positive integers

such that

and

I know how to do part a ,but I don't know how to do part b. Could someone explain it to me?

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Re: Geometric Sequences

hi harrychess

You can use the formula from part a to make an equation with a and n as unknowns.

n is one factor here so you only need to check the factors of 200 ={1,2,4,5,8,10,16,20,25,40,50,100,200} as possible values for n.

Calculate a by re-arranging your formula.  Is a  +ve integer ?

You'll find values of n >10 leads to negative a, so only a few to check.  I got three solutions.

Bob

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harrychess

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Penn writes a 2013-term arithmetic sequence of positive integers, and Teller writes a different 2013-term arithmetic sequence of integers. Teller's first term is the negative of Penn's first term. Each then finds the sum of the terms in his sequence. If their sums are equal, then what is the smallest possible value of the first term in Penn's sequence?

harrychess

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Re: Geometric Sequences

I got 2 solutions Bob. (18,5) and (9,8). Yes, a and n have to be positive integers.

phrontister

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Hi Bob,

...the factors of 200 ={1,2,4,5,8,10,16,20,25,40,50,100,200}

16 isn't...

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Bob

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Senility I'm afraid.  I had the correct list and then edited it to include 16.  ???  Thanks for spotting it.

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Hi harrychess;

Penn writes a 2013-term arithmetic sequence of positive integers, and Teller writes a different 2013-term arithmetic sequence of integers. Teller's first term is the negative of Penn's first term. Each then finds the sum of the terms in his sequence. If their sums are equal, then what is the smallest possible value of the first term in Penn's sequence?

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Re: Geometric Sequences

Hi harrychess,

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