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#76 2014-11-12 05:14:31

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Re: Is there such a function?

Infinite descent!


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#77 2014-11-12 05:28:42

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Re: Is there such a function?

Hm?


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#78 2014-11-12 05:29:17

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Re: Is there such a function?

How can that be non-constant?


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#79 2014-11-12 06:22:53

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Re: Is there such a function?

It can, why do you think it can't?


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#80 2014-11-12 08:48:25

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Re: Is there such a function?

anonimnystefy wrote:

Speaking of which, here is a question.

Does every non-constant periodic function have a smallest positive period?

Let f be the function defined by f(x) = 1 if x is rational and f(x) = 0 if x is irrational.
Then every rational number is a period of f.

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#81 2014-11-12 11:27:07

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Re: Is there such a function?

Yep! smile


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#82 2014-11-12 11:31:32

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Re: Is there such a function?

Great!


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#83 2014-11-12 12:01:59

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Re: Is there such a function?

anonimnystefy wrote:

Does every non-constant periodic function have a smallest positive period?

Take the Dirichlet function for example.

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#84 2014-11-12 12:26:28

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Re: Is there such a function?

Yep. Here's another interesting one:

Does continuity of a function f on [a,b] guarantee continuity of the function g(x)=sup{f(t)|a≤t≤x} on [a,b]? What about differentiability?


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#85 2014-11-12 12:27:15

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Re: Is there such a function?

What is sup?


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#86 2014-11-12 12:30:18

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Re: Is there such a function?

Supremum.


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#87 2017-03-26 03:30:13

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Re: Is there such a function?

anonimnystefy wrote:

Yep. Here's another interesting one:

Does continuity of a function f on [a,b] guarantee continuity of the function g(x)=sup{f(t)|a≤t≤x} on [a,b]? What about differentiability?

Yes, this is indeed an interesting one. Continuity, I think so. Differentiablity, not sure. I will have to make a more serious attempt


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#88 2017-03-26 03:56:17

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Re: Is there such a function?

anonimnystefy wrote:

2) Is there a function with uncountably many strict extremal points?

No, there cannot be. The following is a proof, which I found on the internet, is for maximas. We could produce a similar proof for minimas and then union them to get the same result.

8M8TVacekk-uncountablemaxima.png

I cannot believe that I actually found a solution to this problem that I understood. I thoroughly remember having this conversation here on this forum two years ago, it still feels like yesterday. I remember the sequences of events that followed.

And now, here I am fully (well, at least much better) being able to comprehend this. It does turn out I have learnt something.


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