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#1 2007-09-13 03:24:34

adam_dsutton
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Log differentitation

Hi, I'm struggling with the following questions.

1. Differentiate the following with respect to x:     y=log(xe^x)

2. Find the derivatives of the following functions at the indicated points:

a) (cosx).log(3x)  , x=pi

b) log((x^3)/(x^0.5))  ,  x=5/2

Any help is much appreciated as I havent a clue what to do here.
Thanks, Adam

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#2 2007-09-13 03:31:18

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Re: Log differentitation

first of all, by log do you mean the natural logarithm (ln) or log base 10?


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#3 2007-09-13 03:36:48

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Re: Log differentitation

well i'm presuming log with base 10 but i dont actually know for sure, i just copied the questions exactly :S

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#4 2007-09-13 04:21:13

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Re: Log differentitation

Okay, i've completed 2a) by substituting (ln) instead of log base 10, but I still can't get the correct answers for the other two questions.

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#5 2007-09-13 04:33:25

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Re: Log differentitation

for 1 use product rule and chain rule




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#6 2007-09-13 04:52:30

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Re: Log differentitation

I understand everything apart from the first line...how do you know that f'(x)=1/(xlna) if f(x)=loga(x) ???
also the answers tell me that the answer is 1+(1/x) :S

thanks though luca, I hate to be a bother

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#7 2007-09-13 04:57:03

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Re: Log differentitation

log((x^3)/(x^0.5))



x = 2.5

and conversly, using the logarithm equation again for logarithm of n'th base


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#8 2007-09-13 04:58:16

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Re: Log differentitation

adam_dsutton wrote:

also the answers tell me that the answer is 1+(1/x)

then that tells me that the logarithm you are meant to be using is the natural logarithm NOT logarithm base 10

because then you'd have:


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#9 2007-09-13 05:00:43

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Re: Log differentitation

so redoing my last two posts:

x = 2.5


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#10 2007-09-13 05:02:04

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Re: Log differentitation

Thankyou so much! smile

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#11 2007-09-13 05:06:02

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Re: Log differentitation

for your question on my derivitive ill show you how i work it out:

first of all: prove the following:

then we have:

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