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#376 2008-02-24 23:04:58
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#4: 314!
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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#377 2008-02-25 23:21:10
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Oddly enough:
Guess#1: 952 2c
Guess#2: 297 - 2c
Guess#3: 829 - 2b
Guess#4: 314 - 1c
To Mathsys: That would not have been the answer due to Guess 3 results. Still, You might have just wanted to narrow down the possibilities.
I'm thinking one should get this already
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#378 2008-02-26 03:19:53
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Mathsy has narrowed down the possibilities and brilliantly done, too. Without his Guess#4, theres a chance that the game might stretch to 7 guesses. Guess#4 has ensured that the game will not extend beyond 6 guesses.
Guess#5: 129
On the other hand, without his Guess#4, there would have been a probability of 0.25 that the game could have ended in just 4 guesses! 
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#379 2008-02-26 03:57:55
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Hmm, let's see...
With Guess#4, the chances of the game ending at n guesses is:
4 - 0
5 - 0.75
6 - 0.25
7 - 0
(Because Guess#4 had a 0.5 chance of being 1B or 0, in which case guess#5 would have been certain. I got unlucky, but there's still a 0.5 chance that #5 will be right anyway)
If I'd made Guess#4 'normally', then the chances would be:
4 - 0.25
5 - 0.25
6 - 0.25
7 - 0.25
So that means that my way has a *slightly* better expected value of guesses needed.
Also a better worst case scenario, which is arguably more important.
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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#380 2008-02-26 05:56:20
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Well, whatever youve done, you are a genius. 
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#381 2008-02-27 15:53:17
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Mathsy has narrowed down the possibilities and brilliantly done, too. Without his Guess#4, theres a chance that the game might stretch to 7 guesses. Guess#4 has ensured that the game will not extend beyond 6 guesses.
Guess#5: 129
On the other hand, without his Guess#4, there would have been a probability of 0.25 that the game could have ended in just 4 guesses!
I am not good at this!
Guess 5: 3b!
I guess you won, with special mentions to Mathsys
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#382 2008-03-03 18:21:49
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Re: Cow Bull 1
No one?
Okay, I thought of another one... Gud luck!
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#383 2008-03-04 00:51:26
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357
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#384 2008-03-05 00:37:39
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess 1: 357: 1C
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#385 2008-03-05 00:42:51
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831
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#386 2008-03-05 23:07:15
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831(nil)
"There is not a difference between an in-law and an outlaw, except maybe that an outlaw is wanted"
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#387 2008-03-05 23:19:48
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831 (nil)
Guess#3: 596
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#388 2008-03-07 16:51:35
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831 (nil)
Guess#3: 596 (2c)
"There is not a difference between an in-law and an outlaw, except maybe that an outlaw is wanted"
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#389 2008-03-08 02:44:04
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831 (nil)
Guess#3: 596 (2c)
Guess#4: 645
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#390 2008-03-08 12:21:33
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831 (nil)
Guess#3: 596 (2c)
Guess#4: 645 (2b)
"There is not a difference between an in-law and an outlaw, except maybe that an outlaw is wanted"
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#391 2008-03-08 13:23:15
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess 5: 625.
(I believe the reply to this guess will be enough to get a definite answer.)
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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#392 2008-03-09 16:36:21
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 357 (1c)
Guess#2: 831 (nil)
Guess#3: 596 (2c)
Guess#4: 645 (2b)
Guess#5: 625 (3b)
I am not good at this one!
Mathsys wins, with special mention to Jane
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#393 2008-03-09 23:47:51
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Re: Cow Bull 1
My turn!
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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#394 2008-03-10 00:27:57
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 102
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#395 2008-03-10 07:11:37
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Re: Cow Bull 1
#1: 102 (1c)
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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#396 2008-03-10 09:52:04
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 102 (1c)
Guess#2: 314
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#397 2008-03-10 10:21:02
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Haha, nice guess. Wrong though. 
#1: 102 (c)
#2: 314 (bc)
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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#398 2008-03-10 12:44:41
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess#1: 102 (1c)
Guess#2: 314 (1b,1c)
Guess#3: 513
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#399 2008-03-10 16:25:28
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Re: Cow Bull 1
Guess #5: 402
P.S. I'm not good at this!
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#400 2008-03-11 03:40:40
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Re: Cow Bull 1
#1: 102 (c)
#2: 314 (bc)
#3: 513 (b)
#4: 402 (b)
Fun fact: Knowing the answers to the first three, the answer to the fourth can be deduced.
#4 was guessed before #3 was answered though, so it wasn't a bad guess.
Why did the vector cross the road?
It wanted to be normal.
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