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I'd just like to clarify something quickly...
We define a prime number p to be an integer greater than 1 such that given integers m and n, p|mn ⇒ p|m or p|n.
We define an irreducible to be an integer t, with the property that t is divisible only by ±t and ±1.
This is the proof as I understand it:
If p is prime and p =mn, then p|mn and so p|m or p|n. If p|m, then m = cp and so p = pcn, and since p ≠ 0 we have cn = 1 and so c = n = 1 or c = n = -1. Hence we have n=±1 ⇒ m=±p for p=mn to be true. A similar argument applies if p|n (namely that m=±1 ⇒ n=±p). In both cases we see that p is only divisibile by ±p and ±1 and is therefore irreducible.
The proof in my book says pretty much the same thing, but after stating that a similar argument can be applied if p|n, it says "hence if m divides p, then m = ± p or ± 1". I find this an odd way of saying it. Is what I've written in the proof above correct by itself?
Thanks.
Last edited by Daniel123 (2008-08-11 08:58:22)
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Your proof is correct.
In fact, it is also true that every irreducible integer > 1 is a prime. This is because the integers
form whats called a unique-factorization domain (UFD). In general, every prime is an irreducible in any integral domain. The converse, that every irreducible is a prime, is not true in general, but in a UFD it does hold.Last edited by JaneFairfax (2008-08-11 11:34:40)
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Brilliant, thanks Jane.
I googled UFD, and can sort of see what's going in a non-technical way. My book says "Later we will show that all positive irreducibles are prime", so I shall wait until I get onto that
Last edited by Daniel123 (2008-08-11 21:56:51)
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Well, first we define what a unit is. Its an element that divides the multiplicative identity. In the integers, therefore, the units are 1 and −1.
In a UFD, any element that is not 0 or a unit can be uniquely factorized, i.e. written uniquely as a product
where u is a unit and the s are irreducibles. Thus, every integer > 1 can be written uniquely as a product of positive irreduciles.Now let t be a positive irreducible, t > 1, and suppose t divides ab. Thus kt = ab for some integer k. Clearly both a and b are not 0 since t is not 0. If both a and b are units, then t would be a unit, contradicting the fact that t > 1. Thus a or b or both can be uniquely factorized. We can assume WLOG that both a and b are positive, so one or both of them can be written uniquely as a product of positive irreducibles.
If a = 1 and b can be uniquely factorized, say
for positive irreducibles , then . By uniqueness of factorization, t must be equal to one of the s, say . Thus , i.e. t divides b.Similarly, if b = 1 and
for positive irreducibles , then t is one of the s and so t divides a.And if both a, b > 1, then
so t must be one of s or one of the s, and so t divides a or b as before.Hence t is a prime.
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I've only just gone back to this book after a while, and I've come across its proof that an irreducible integer is a prime:
Suppose that t is irreducible and that t|mn. Suppose also that t does not divide m. Since the only factors of t are ±1 and ±t, this means that (t,m) = 1. It follows that there exists integers x and y such that xt + ym = 1. Hence xtn + ymn = n. Now t|xtn and t|ymn, and hence t|n. It follows that t is prime.
I have two problems with this.
1. Why is it ok to suppose that t does not divide m?
2. 'Now t|xtn and t|ymn' - don't really see where this comes from, and how it leads to t|n.
Thanks.
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Because the object is to prove that t divides either m or n. Given any t and m, either t divides m or t doesnt divide m. If t divides m, the result is already true and there is nothing to prove. So we consider the other case, that t doesnt divide m. Then, in order for the result to hold, we need to show that t divides n.
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because by assumption. Since andOffline
Ahh I see. Thanks Jane
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